Australia Profiles Naming Conventions

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Dale Martens
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G'day! I am looking for guidance in how to name the Australia steel profiles that we are working on.  

This is the naming system I am proposing for the AU steel profile library:
 
150UB14 (Beams)
100UC15 (Columns)
60x50UA5 (Unequal Angles)
25EA3 (Equal Angles)
75PFC (Parallel Flange Channel)
50TFC (Tapered Flange Channel)
20SHS1.6 (Square Hollow Section)
50x25RHS1.6 (Rect Hollow Section)
33.7CHS2.6 (Circular Hollow Section)
 
Questions:
  • Is the naming convention above acceptable?
  • Should the 'x' be upper or lower case?
  • Should decimal dimensions always be rounded except for hollow sections (as shown above)

Also, I am looking for this info for AU profiles:

  • root radius for angle profiles
  • centroid location for angle and channel profiles (x, y)
  • outer corner radius for SHS and RHS

I would appreciate if someone could direct me to standard published values for the above info.  Thanks!

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  • Matthew Monaghan

    Hi Mate,

     

    Just downloaded the Extension, great work so far.

    I agree with your naming convention; would you like a catalogue from an AU Steel Supplier? I can send over which will help.

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  • Nigel Dunning
    • Is the naming convention above acceptable?

    Maybe - strictly speaking. But I developed a different approach. In order to sort and find profiles easier (using native tools), I have named my components by leading with the Profile/Part designation, followed by the size e.g. PFC250, SHS89x6.0, UB360_45, C20024, Z15015. This made life a lot easier. If you lead with the dimensions, it all becomes a hot mess when exporting lists to excel, finding components in the model etc. 

    • Should the 'x' be upper or lower case? 

    Lower case seems to be the industry standard.

    • Should decimal dimensions always be rounded except for hollow sections (as shown above)

    Yes, typically.

    Also, I am looking for this info for AU profiles:

    Try here, if the link doesn't work, contact me.

    https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=9495a799d0fea6efb6c28f070ce61149ceb56cfa36282a941e82597d4612612dJmltdHM9MTc0MDg3MzYwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=1842e9c3-273b-6dc6-121b-fdfb26466c0f&psq=onesteel+hot+rolled+and+structural+steel+products&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuc3RlZWwub3JnLmF1L3Jlc291cmNlcy9lbGlicmFyeS9yZXNvdXJjZXMvaG90LXJvbGxlZC1hbmQtc3RydWN0dXJhbC1zdGVlbC1wcm9kdWN0cywtOC1lZF9saWIvP3ZpZXc9ZG93bmxvYWQ&ntb=1 

     

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  • Dale Martens

    Thanks Nigel - you suggest this name: UB360_45.  In Canada, our convention for this would be UB360x45.  What about using that same convention for the UB and UC profiles for Australia?

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  • Dale Martens

    Nigel - BIG THANKYOU for the link to the liberty catalog!  Just what I needed!  I might be able to release the AU library this week!

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  • Nigel Dunning

    "In Canada, our convention for this would be UB360x45.  What about using that same convention for the UB and UC profiles for Australia?" Makes sense. No argument from me.

    "I might be able to release the AU library this week!" Now we are talking!

    Dale, on the shop drawing/BOM/Lists side of things - Could you tease us with a bit more on what we can expect? Maybe even forecast a schedule of when we might get our hands on a Beta version?

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  • Dale Martens

    Nigel - The Liberty catalog PDF you provided does not include SHS, RHS, or CHS profiles.  Do you know where I could find tables for these profiles that include outer corner radius and cross-sectional area?  

    Regarding BOM and reports, I recommend using Quantifier Pro for the time being.

    https://mindsightstudios.com/quantifier-pro/

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  • Dale Martens

    I decided to release the Australia library in its current state: https://decasteel.com/steel-profiles/

    If you find any issues with it, please let us know.

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  • Nigel Dunning

    Thanks Dale, I am still on the hunt for the profile information you asked for.

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  • Matthew Monaghan

    Hi Dale,

    Use the below link to access the Orrcon Steel Catalogue form our sharepoint site:

    Orrcon Product Catalogue.pdf

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  • Matthew Monaghan

    Hi Dale,

     

    How do I download the AUS library?

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  • Dale Martens

    Click the Australia Profiles link at this page:

    https://decasteel.com/steel-profiles/

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  • Jason Rodrigues

    Hi Dale,

    I'm checking to see if we can add further profiles like C Purlins & Z Purlins to the Australian library. These are widely used for structural assemblies. Thanks in advance. 

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  • Nigel Dunning

    +1 on the C Purlins & Z Purlins. And add the cleat connections to beams and columns to go with Purlins!

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  • Dale Martens

    Thanks Jason and Nigel - can you provide a table showing standard dimensions for these shapes?  We would certainly like to add support for these shapes in the future.

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  • Nigel Dunning

    Hi Dale, Lysaght is one of the oldest continuous manufacturers in the country, available nationwide. Probably a good source to consider as a standard. See pages 7,17,18 of the pdf below.

    Lysaght | LYSAGHT® Zed & Cee Purlins and Girts

     

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  • Jason Rodrigues

    Hi Dale,

    If you go this website http://www.steelweb.info/purlin.htm they have all the info including 2D DWG & 3D SAT file. Also further info on this https://steelselect.com.au/products/lysaght/lysaght-zed-cee-purlins-and-girts 

     

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  • Dale Martens

    Thanks Nigel and Jason

    Jason, the steelweb.info link does not work for me

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  • Jason Rodrigues

    I tried the link myself and yes there is some error. Can you manually type the below and try

    http://www.steelweb.info/purlin.htm

    When I tried this method it worked for me. 

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  • Dale Martens
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    Got it - the problem was there is an extra space at the end of the link - I've edited your previous links so they work now.

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